Originally posted in answer to the question What is so bad about a Muslim registry? on Quora.
I am going to provide an IT perspective on this question.
Yes, that’s right, an Information Technology, computers and the-people-who-deal-with-the-machines-collecting-and-crunching-the-data-perspective.
Why? Because when someone decides to ‘create a registry’ someone (similar to myself) is tasked with the job of creating a database AND reports generated by that database.
As illustrated by the wonderful commentary generated by the Y2Gay database discussions, IT has an important perspective on these things:
Creating Databases Means Identifying Key Data
When a database is created, the first thing that must be done is simply this:
- identify the key data being collected
- identify the reports and other deliverables created by the database
While you might thing the second item could be restated as ‘identify the reason for the database’ nothing could be further from the truth. When dealing with non-computer people it is not unusual to have someone demand that a database be created to gather information “that creates a positive customer service experience for our customers!”…or something equally unclear yet very pep-rally appropriate. Then, after talking to multiple people and FINALLY getting them to explain what, exactly, they are going to DO with the data, the unofficial and IT specific purpose changes to: “create a mailing list.”
This is one of those near-universal experiences people in IT like to laugh and complain about. It applies to government and private sector equally.
So, in the case of a Muslim registry, the first step (key data) is partially addressed in the notes included with this question:
I am shocked there is not already a registry of ALL citizens with info such as race, gender, religion, languages etc. At least a Muslim registry is a step in the right direction, seeing as a great threat to America happens to belong to a single religion (I know most Muslims are not terrorists).
As noted in other answers, many of these elements are already gathered through existing databases, like the US Census and ID Cards.
Don’t Make Me Fill Out ANOTHER Form!
When data is already being collected and reported, the individuals responsible for that data tend to get cranky when someone comes in asks them to fill out another form, create another report, and generally re-enter the same stuff AGAIN. There’s also the possibility of entering errors into the data source when it’s being created/generated/imported/modified multiple times by multiple people.
Of the items listed, everything except religion and language are already included on divers licenses and state IDs. The data collected by the DMV is free and available to the general public (personally, I do NOT agree with this massive dumping of personal information…but I digress) so an enterprising database designer could…potentially…import the DMV data and connect it to the missing elements: religion and language.
With the right connections and political power, it could also connect to the state and federal databases containing anyone and everyone who has ever been arrested for any reason (including those cleared as innocent) AND the databases maintained by the department of homeland security, the no-fly list, and even the records maintained by public schools. Several of these databases INCLUDE religion and race.
In short, we COULD create a complete profile on every person residing within the United States neatly coordinated within a single location just by importing already existing data.
Explain to me…again…why we are doing this?
That brings us to the second question – what, specifically, is going to be DONE with this data?
Since the Muslim registry enters into the network of existing information specifically for the purpose of:
- collecting religion and language
- identifying terrorists
- focusing specifically on Muslims as potential terrorists
Then the database being created is more like a report-generating app that connects all existing data, spits out lists of known Muslims, their home address, the school they attend, the language they speak, connections to known terrorists groups, their place of worship, and anything else that might be deemed important.
Presumably, this information would be provided to people in the field, who would add information to individual files, as needed.
As an IT person, I’m thinking: soooo…you want to re-create the department of homeland security?
As noted above, all of this information already exists and it is a well known fact that federal agencies have made concerted effort to connect and share data. I guarantee you, this sort of thing already exists – along with similar reports on every religion, hate group, environmentalist group, activist community and whatever else someone in ANY federal level policing agency (or state level or whatever) might deem important to know…for whatever reason,
In fact, if human behavior remains consistent (and it usually does) there are probably databases and reports that focus on individuals, groups and concerns going back to the beginning of data collection – and people working in all levels of law enforcement who occasionally stumble across these things and scratch their heads wondering why in holy hades do they even HAVE this?
Duplicate with different purpose…and the reason is what?
So, again, why are we building this?
Now we are getting down to brass tacks. The key term here is registry.
A registry managed by the government contains data on people that is made publicly available (). A category-specific registry is usually (always?) focused on presenting information about people who are deemed dangerous enough to warn the general public on a permanent basis.
- US Department of Justice:
- IL State Police:
- TN Bureau of Investigation:
Therefore, this isn’t data collection, this is data distribution to the general public.
Whats Wrong With a Muslim Registry?
Creating a database of all individuals who associate with a specific religion and making it publicly available for the express purpose of warning all individuals NOT associated with that religion to be wary of interaction due to potential terrorism…
Yeah, that’s a problem.
Why? Because that’s not purpose-driven data collection, that’s propaganda.
I suggest reading any of the other posts that focus on the registries maintained by the Nazis or the crimes committed again the Japanese here in the USA during WWII. I’m sure there are other equally powerful examples and all of them come down to the same thing: when the government ostracizes a group of people and generates a marketing campaign that vilifies all members of said group…and a registry would achieve that goal (and ONLY that goal)…then bad things happen.
Really bad things.
We don’t need that here in the United States.